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Counterbalance

Counterbalance Podcast | Exploring Our New Worldview: “Real-Realism”

peter_rough
peter_rough
Senior Fellow and Director, Center on Europe and Eurasia
michael_doran
michael_doran
Senior Fellow and Director, Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East
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After internal dialogues revealed that the team was feeling a bit “strategically rudderless,” hosts Mike Doran and Peter Rough sit together to launch a new thesis for Counterbalance. Together they explain what’s wrong with foreign policy “experts” today and why an interest-based foreign policy is needed over the dominant, but flawed, values-based outlook of today’s elites. They’re calling this new school of thought “real-realism.”

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 About Counterbalance:

Counterbalance is a Hudson Institute podcast hosted by Senior Fellows Michael Doran and Peter Rough. As America's unipolar moment fades, Rough and Doran explore the emerging global order.