Rebeccah Heinrichs appears on the podcast Midrats to discuss what the US taking a realist approach to the war in Ukraine would look like.

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US Marines with 5th Battalion, 11th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, drive an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System onto a US Air Force C-5 Galaxy during a loading exercise at Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton in California on February 7, 2023. (US Marine Corps photo by Cameron Hermanet)