Mary Kissel joins The John Batchelor Show to comment on the state of global diplomacy. She argues that the wars in Ukraine and Iran merged years ago, and urges the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to recognize the “condominium” of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea aligning against the West.
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Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan, Japan's Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi, and Indonesia's Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka during the G20 Leaders' Summit in Johannesburg, South Africa, on November 22, 2025. (Getty Images)