Peter Rough joins NatSec Matters to discuss how the recent North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit in Ankara landed and the hidden friction points undercutting transatlantic unity, from software interoperability gaps to trade and digital policy disputes. He also examines how Ukraine’s decentralized, software-driven “operating system” has transformed Russia’s immense geographic mass into a highly exposed vulnerability, and how the sudden passing of Russia hawk Senator Lindsey Graham is set to reshape Capitol Hill’s approach to the war.
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Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan, Japan's Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi, and Indonesia's Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka during the G20 Leaders' Summit in Johannesburg, South Africa, on November 22, 2025. (Getty Images)